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National Sexual Violence Resource Center
Promoting Sexual Assault Healing Services to Men
Tuesday
February 28, 2023
1:45 PM‑3:20 PM EST
	
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	>> LOUIE MARVEN: I see people are joining the space. We're going to pause and let that continue to happen. 
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	>> LOUIE MARVEN: We will be recording the session today, so keep that in mind as you decide how you want to participate. And now that we have reviewed some housekeeping notes, we're going to start recording. 
	I just want to make sure that we're recording everywhere we need to be. Great. Thank you. 
	Okay, welcome, everyone, to the session Promoting Sexual Assault Healing Services to Men. 
	I'm Louie Marven, a Project Coordinator at NSVRC, which is the National Sexual Violence Resource Center. I use he/him pronouns and I'm joining from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, which is where I live, and also where our main office is located. 
	And this project that we have on getting resources to advocates on working with men is what I spend the majority of my time on. And NSVRC has a number of resources on this topic available online and we're going to share a link in the chat to where those are located. That's the Working with Male Survivors of Sexual Violence, a Toolkit and landing page. You'll see that pop up in the chat. Thank you, Sara. 
	If you are not familiar with NSVRC, something to know is that we provide a lot of information and tools and resources, including trainings like this and including the materials I mentioned from the Online Toolkit that relates to preventing and responding to sexual violence. 
	Some of the things you might notice us producing are things like research translations, Sexual Assault Awareness Month, podcasts, we have a number of different projects at any given time, including this one on creating tools and training for advocates on Working with Male Survivors of Sexual Violence. But, also, many other topics related to services for survivors and to preventing sexual violence. 
	Kris. 
	>> KRIS MADY: Thanks, Louie. I'm so happy to be joining you all today. It looks like we have over 200 people on here, so that's super exciting to see! 
	My name is Kris Mady. I use he/him or they/them pronouns. I'm a Program Director with Just Detention International, or JDI for short. 
	I'm joining from Los Angeles, California, that's where our main office is located. 
	So just a little bit about JDI, we're a help and Human Rights organization that seeks to end sexual abuse in all forms of detention. JDI carries out its mission by working with corrections officials, Rape Crisis Centers, and policymakers to make detention facilities safe. We promote public attitudes that value the dignity and safety of people in detention. And we work to support incarcerated survivors of sexual abuse and sexual harassment. 
	It's our fundamental principle that when the Government takes away someone's freedom, it takes on an absolute responsibility to protect that person's safety. No matter what crime someone may have committed, rape is not part of the penalty. 
	So we know there's a whole bunch of you on here today and it sounds like folks are already putting in their names and their positions at the Centers that they work at, but we would love to hear from you all where you are joining us from, so please pop into the chat what state or territory you are joining from today. 
	It looks like we have people from all over. I love seeing all of these answers. I'm seeing Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Florida, another California person, Hawaii, Oklahoma. Fantastic! I'm seeing ‑‑ oh, Canada even. Okay, wonderful! I'm loving seeing all these different places. Great to have you all joining! 
	And as you continue to put that into the chat, I do want to introduce today's topic. So I think we can all really agree that talking about sexual violence matters, so whether you are describing your Center services to a friend, you are working with a survivor directly, maybe you are talking in front of a classroom of students about preventing sexual harassment, or you are just writing your Agency's newsletter, the words you use really do have an impact on how your audience is going to understand those topics. 
	They also have a really strong impact as who sees themselves as eligible for your Center's services. And I think a lot of us are joining today and I think Louie and I are just so excited to talk about this because you all there because you want to raise awareness in your Community that men experience sexual violence. And you want to let men know that your Sexual Assault Center is there to help. 
	To do this, it's really necessary to make sure your language reflects those commitments and this webinar is all about how you can communicate about sexual violence as something that men experience and that your services are available to survivors who are men. 
	We believe that there's no kind of one right way to accomplish the goal of reaching survivors who are men. Unfortunately, we don't have, like, a magic checklist or we can't wave a magic wand and say, if you do, this, this, and this in this order you'll be able to reach all men. 
	We know that increasing access to trauma‑informed services for men really needs to be an on‑going and evolving effort. So this isn't going to be just a single conversation. Or like I said, it's not just a checklist you can go through once. So it's likely going to include multiple conversations and multiple approaches over time. 
	>> LOUIE MARVEN: Great, thanks, Kris. And thanks everyone who shared where they are joining from. Wow! It's great to see people joining from all over! 
	And let's keep getting to know a little bit about what you all are bringing to the session today. We have a poll question. I'm going to launch it now. 
	So, yeah, I'll leave this open for a minute. Let us know how effective you believe your Agency is at reaching men who are survivors. 
	I see some people are ‑‑ a lot of people are taking it. [Laughter] So those numbers are going up really high. We've got a real mix. Very few who say "very effective." A number who say ‑‑ well, plurality I guess you say, it's not 50%, so it's not a majority, but the plurality of you are saying you are effective at reaching men, that's great to hear. And we will have a lot of chance to hear your ideas about how you can do that, so hopefully we'll all learn a new thing before we leave this space today. And the number of people who are saying "ineffective" or "unsure." Yeah, so thanks for taking that poll and letting us know where you're at. 
	I'll share the results now so you can take a look at what we're working with in the space today, but I'm sure that where ever you marked yourself or your Agency on this topic, we'll have a good time sharing some new ideas with each other as we move forward. 
	So let me close that. 
	Okay, so before we get to our more specific topic today of promoting our services to men, we just want to share some of the things that we're bringing to this work of providing services to survivors who are men and what it means for us to be focusing on that topic. 
	And, so one thing we want to know is that Sexual Assault Centers provide services for any survivor, so Kris and I, and NSVRC and JDI, are not really coming from a place of "If you decide you like to work with men," we are coming more from a place of recognizing there may be certain issues that come up when we talk about men seeking services and programs being prepared and relevant. 
	So we'll talk about men and transmasculine adults, but not boys, so we're focused on adults in this conversation and in this project, but this, of course, does include adult survivors of childhood sexual abuse. 
	And throughout our time together we will tend to refer to “survivors who are men”, rather than “males”, and “incarcerated people” rather than “inmates”, and we do encourage you to mirror this language and use this language as well. 
	And something really important we want to get across or note is that we can simultaneously get across that sexual violence is not a gendered issue and that survivors who are men deserve the opportunity to find healing. So both of those things are true. 
	We don't have to ignore that people who commit acts of sexual violence are predominantly men and at the same time the social norms that say that men have to be tough and powerful, these are things that are harmful to women and non‑binary people and can drive violence toward women and non‑binary people by men. 
	And at the same time, those norms are also harmful to men who have had unwanted sexual experiences. So those are those norms that tell men it's bad to ask for help and so on. So there's a lot going on in common with a lot of these problems that we are trying to address in terms of violence in our society. We don't have to give up this gendered framework when we talk about working with men as survivors. 
	We also want to note that while prevention efforts have noted that targeting engagement of men is really important, we also believe that we just need to talk about men as survivors also to really ensure that our services work for men, our Communities. 
	And also, the category of men, we keep talking about men who are survivors, encompasses a really wide, diverse range of people are various life experiences, identities, needs. 
	I'm going to pause for an Interpreter switch. 
	Yeah, so, again, this category of men is really broad. When we talk about survivors who are men, we are not just talking about one kind of person. Right?  
	Yeah, so those are some of the things we think are important for us to highlight about our overall approach and that inform our conversation today. 
	And just to add a little bit more context for today is that we know there are a number of barriers men face in accesses services of Sexual Assault Programs, and these are just a few of them that come up a lot when we talk about this topic, so we should consider these barriers when we are thinking about "how" and "why" we are trying to advertise our services in ways that reach men who are survivors. 
	We want to note socialization and stigma around sexual abuse and about reaching out for support are factors here. Generally, men are socialized to suppress an emotional response. Men may be likely to see victimhood as feminine or feeling shame for the perception that they have been weak. And that sexual abuse can lead to questions of sexual identity. 
	So for example, an adult survivor of childhood sexual abuse by a man, questioning his sexual identity in light of the abuse. So these are some barriers. 
	Another barriers is the prevention of Sexual Assault Centers in the movement as being specifically for women. Maybe not seeing men going to our programs. Maybe the outreach language from a Center doesn't reflect men's experiences or perceptions of what happened. Maybe men aren't seeing any outreach in men's spaces and this can especially be true for men that are incarcerated. 
	It's likely many of us have talked about men as perpetrators of violence and who have seen violence. Both of those things are true. But we don't want to limit there. We also want to talk about men as survivors of violence. 
	And then we may also not be communicating well when bullying or initiation or hazing overlap with sexual violence or are sexual violence. 
	And then finally another barrier we have noticed and heard about is this Staff readiness to work with men. So, you know, working on healing with survivors who are men may be seen as a distraction from the real mission or extra work, when, in fact, it's just part of our work. And there might be fear of how men respond to trauma, maybe with anger as the most accessible emotion available to express for a man. 
	So you can probably think of others. Maybe some that are specific to your service area or your Agency, maybe some others that we'd see across the board. This is just some more context to keep in mind when we think about how to promote services to men. 
	>> KRIS MADY: So throughout today's webinar we're going to go over five key tips on how you can start to promote sexual assault healing services to men. 
	We're going to first start off by talking about when to use gender‑neutral language or gender‑specific language. 
	We're going to then talk about how to vary descriptions of your Center's services. 
	We're going to discuss how to focus on the facts and move away from using myths. 
	We're going to talk about how you can go beyond words and what kinds of actions you can take to serve men. 
	And then we are going to talk about how everyone at your program has a role in increasing men's access to services. 
	During this time, we will have plenty of time for questions, so feel free to use the Q&A function on the webinar. Also feel free to use the chat. We will be monitoring that as we go. And at the end we will also have time for more questions. 
	So let's start with our first tip for today. 
	We found that it's really helpful for us to know when we can use gender‑neutral language and when we can use gender‑specific language. 
	Gender‑neutral language is a really great practice for many reasons. It can help us be inclusive in our communication. It helps to show that we serve all survivors of all genders and that we respect survivors who may use gender‑neutral pronouns. 
	So some examples of gender‑neutral ways to describe who your Center serves can simply be saying “people of all genders” and using “they” rather than “she” when talking about survivors. 
	In many cases gender‑neutral language like this will be your best option to use in any kind of written materials you might have. You might say in some sort of statements that you make or write in any kind of newsletter, things like that, that your program offers counseling to all survivors of sexual violence regardless of gender. So, again, you really being inclusive and you are using that gender‑neutral language. 
	We find that the point that men experience sexual violence is often only shared as an after‑thought. So just like Louie was saying earlier. 
	So for example, we've heard a lot then when people are representing sexual violence issues publicly, sometimes that speaker might say "she" to describe a victim. And occasionally add "Oh, and men, too." That's really not a great way for us to be talking about survivors and to be inclusive. 
	Instead, in those situations we really encourage you to start using more gender‑neutral terms. Like saying "People who have had unwanted sexual experiences." Or saying "All survivors," or simply saying "The survivor" rather than using a gender pronouns. 
	And we encourage you to use scenarios. Maybe we are using people's names or we are using gendered pronouns, so when you are doing that, we encourage you to use a mix of gendered names and gendered pronouns. So really varying what pronouns you are using. Using "he", "she", and "they" to talk about those who may have encountered sexual violence. That's a really helpful tool. 
	On the other hand, using very gender‑specific language may also be very helpful. Sometimes your services may be gender‑specific, so it will be really important for you to let folks know that. 
	Also, when you are all trying to reach all survivors and you are finding, hmm, we only are having cisgender women use our services, how can we reach men?  You have to let them know that the service are for them by clearing stating that. It can be really helpful to mix in gender‑specific language since maybe those folks in your Community don't know that they are able to receive services at your Center. 
	So this can be especially helpful for people who may be more hesitant to reach out to services, but really seeing their identity group clearly stated in your messaging is a direct welcome. So they don't have to be left wondering: Am I really allowed?  Am I really welcome in this space?  
	For example, if you are promoting a support group for survivors, you might say: This group is for men. This group is for cisgender men, cisgender women, transgender woman, transgender men. Clearly stating the identity that the group is for. 
	This strategy is also really helpful for reaching folks in your Community really of any different identity. So you can adapt this strategy to reach groups that are not currently accessing your Center's services. 
	For example, you could clearly state that you are serving Black survivors or Indigenous survivors or survivors who have disabilities. Again, the goal here people being able to see their identity reflected in your messaging and knowing "I'm welcome in this space." 
	So we're going to do a really quick scenario with you all. So I think something that Louie and I have heard time and time again as folks come to us and say, you know, I have a support group that running, but only cisgender women are attending. 
	So we want you to think about this scenario. Imagine you are running a support group that is supposed to be for survivors of all genders, but, again, you are only having cisgender women currently attend. 
	We want you to think about how could you promote that group in a way that communicates it's also open to men?  
	We want you to pop in the chat box any ideas you have about how you might communicate in your messaging or in how you describe your group in a way that communicates that men can attend your group and are absolutely welcome in your group?  
	So I'll give folks a chance to write in the chat. 
	Wonderful! Yeah, so one of the first comments that we're having is to use that gender‑neutral language by saying that all survivors are welcome and not being gender‑specific. Fantastic! 
	Another idea here is saying if you have any men on Staff, they can act as a host for that group, really having that person be the person hosting and promoting it. Absolutely! I think folks being able to visually see their identity reflected can be a really helpful way of promoting a group to men. 
	A couple other comments here just saying: Really just to state it explicitly, that you are there to serve men. Absolutely! And I find that for groups especially can be really helpful. 
	Another way to do that, of course, is, I think, individual conversations you're having with survivors who are men, to talk about your support group, to talk about how men are welcome in that space and how they are included in that space. That direct referral. 
	I'm also seeing a comment here saying to go where men go. To go into local gay bars, to drag shows to present about services between acts. I love that you're doing that! And I think that's going to come up later in our conversation when we talk about how to do outreach. 
	Other thoughts here about using graphics that promote all genders. Make sure that all of those promotional materials include the statement that "all survivors are welcome." Yeah. 
	These are some really fantastic ideas. 
	And as you think about kind of when to use gender‑neutral language, when to use gender‑specific language, I really just encourage you to think about what materials you currently have where there is language that maybe isn't super inclusive. So think about maybe your website, your newsletter, your brochures, start thinking about your flyers. Where do you have language that might be limiting?  And how can you edit it a little bit so that way men can really recognize: Hey, I'm applicable for this service. 
	So I'm going to turn back to Louie to talk more about the language that we use. 
	>> LOUIE MARVEN: Thanks, Kris. Thanks everyone who shared an idea in the chat. I see those are still coming in. That's nice to see. 
	So our next tip is to mix in varying descriptions of your Center's services. 
	And so sometimes we're talking about descriptions as opposed to labels. So some of the labels that come into our work might not resonate for all survivors and this is likely true when we are talking about any group of people, we happen to be talking about men today. So for men, some of the labels that may be uncomfortable could include words like "rape" or even "survivor", "victim", "perpetrator", "sexual violence." These are all words we have heard in our work, so barriers. 
	Labels related to sex labels like "gay." Because the word "rape" may be a barrier for men who don't associate that experience with that, it is suggested to use "unwanted sexual experiences" or "abusive sexual experiences." That can be helpful to mix in sometimes. I'm not say abandon this word and now use this word. Like Kris was talking about in the beginning, we're not talking about a checklist you have to accomplish, but these can be ways of describing that can be mixed in what you are already talking about, "unwanted sexual experiences" "abusive sexual experiences." 
	Survivors who are men, since that's our focus for today, may question whether or not an organization known as a Rape Crisis Center fits his experience if he doesn't think of what happened as rape and if he doesn't feel he is in immediate crisis. Right?  
	Additionally, if the name of your program is something like "The Women's Center", it's unlikely that a man or non‑binary person will recognize it as a place that they can get services. 
	So we've heard feedback, also, that while men may be actively looking for support, the idea of having a conversation may help get them in the door. So labeling work in terms of, like, support groups, therapy, advocacy, may not resonate with everyone. But the idea of having a conversation with someone about an unwanted experience or trauma, that might feel better for some people. 
	And, of course, when you are in conversation with a man about his experience with sexual victimization, mirror the words that he uses to describe those experiences. That's something that we would do with any survivor. Right?  
	So if appropriate, you could try describing aspects of the services you provide that men might be more comfortable accessing. 
	For example, advocates working in a prison context may reach men who are incarcerated when emphasizing that they provide counseling around trauma, substance abuse, childhood abuse, and violence in the Community. So you could give examples of what services men might be more comfortable accessing. 
	I'll pause for an Interpreter switch. 
	So, again, just want to say that language like this can help people access services without having to identify or label their unwanted sexual experiences.
	But the most important thing when we are talking about reaching any audience is just to get to know your audience and you can try different ways of describing your services and find out what works best for your Communities. 
	So these are just a few ideas for your consideration in that process of that on‑going work. 
	So, again, we have a discussion question for this tip. 
	What are some other words, phrases, and descriptions that you could use?  
	So head back to the chat and share your ideas about that. Are there other ways you can vary the descriptions of your Center's services?  And maybe what are some of the things that you are currently doing to try and reach men?  How are you describing your services right now?  We want to know what some of those things that people are doing that work really well for them and maybe somebody else in the session could take that idea and use in their Community. 
	What are some other words, phrases, or descriptions that you could use that describe the kinds of services you have going on rather than labeling in a way that might feel alienating for someone. 
	We have a comment about using the phrase "relationship violence." 
	The idea of using the language of "victim advocacy." 
	And so what is that, I would say then, too. I think these are good ideas and they are definitely worth trying, but if you had to put it, like, in a sentence as opposed to, like, a title or a label, what would that look like?  
	Someone is saying that they are rebranding their name from "Women and Children's Horizons" to "Horizons" so we don't lose our male survivors Community. 
	Someone gave an example of an organization change, so thanks for that example. 
	The idea of being creative with names for programs, such as brotherhood, fraternity, men's groups, gatherings. I like those ideas. 
	And so the "relationship violence", it's going back and taking me up on this description: All people are eligible for our services. Those of us working in this field can see themselves in a description like that as opposed to a label. 
	Really appreciate that. 
	We have a lot of really good ideas in here that I'm not going to be able to read all of them into the space, unfortunately. 
	Somebody is noting that the images, so we used to have a butterfly in our logo, but we took it out because it might look very feminine and might determine them from reaching out. So thinking about the images and communicating to what you are all about. 
	Yeah, these are all great ideas. Thanks for sharing them. I'm going to go ahead and move forward to our next tip, but feel free to keep typing. 
	Our next tip is to focus on the facts. That means staying away from restating myths. The reason for that is because people already know the myths around sexual violence. When we say them out loud or include them on our websites, we can inadvertently reinforce them. 
	Because they are so engrained, the general public will receive the myth and kind of not hear the new information, so that can be a real challenge. 
	So instead we want to state the facts. So when I say that, when I say "state the facts," these are some examples. 
	Men are victims of sexual assault and harassment. 
	Men experienced unwanted sexual contact by people of any sexual orientation. 
	Unwanted sexual contact causes harm to men and boys who experience it. 
	So these might sound like very obvious things to say and not, like, a major shift in language, but do you see how these are different from saying that the myth isn't true instead of just saying I'll do the thing for the purpose of our conversation and say, like, the myth might be that men can't be raped, for example. Right?  Instead of saying: No, it's not true that men can't be raped. Saying: Men are victims of sexual assault and harassment. This is an issue that impacts men. Things like that are ways to shift to saying the facts and that can kind of cut through the myths in our cultures around sexual violence. 
	So some other examples might include experience unwanted sexual contact by people of any gender. 
	Men are sexual assaulted by people that they know. 
	Then to recover from sexual abuse, including the abuse that happened during childhood with the help of safe, caring relationships and support services. 
	Those are some examples of things that you might say are true as opposed to myths that are not true. 
	So I want to ask you, again, your Agency uses a myth and fact web page to talk about survivors who are men. How could you nudge your Agency away from that?  Or how could you reframe some of the common myths?  
	I'll ask you to share in the chat again how you might do that. 
	I can, again, do the thing I just suggested we don't do and give examples of myths, just for the purposes of practices. 
	Changing the commonly held myths. We are having an inside conversation related to our field and trying to think of how people in the general public who may not be used to our terms or jargon or styles of communication can best understand what we do and the facts of the impact of sexual violence. 
	So I see a comment in the chat about providing statistics and data. Yeah, that can be useful. And definitely, maybe, like, one piece of data or two instead of a whole lot can be a good thing to do, really focusing on one thing. 
	Someone is saying: Did you know?  Right, if you can finish the senescence "did you know" that can be a really great way to practice saying the thing that is true. 
	Not include the myths, but simply state fact. Right. Get rid of the myths. 
	Not include the myths, but simply state facts including statistics and facts about men experiencing sexual assault and unwanted sexual encounters. 
	I'll offer one myth, say this is on your website right now ‑‑ well, this wouldn't be on your website, but in terms of it being a myth, so the myth of sexual abuse not happening in prison, or, sexual abuse isn't our problem if it happens to someone who is a, quote/unquote, criminal. How might you flip that and say a thing that is a fact as opposed to saying ‑‑ merely saying that myth isn't true?  
	Might you ‑‑ how might you shift that to say, instead of saying "it's a myth that sexual abuse doesn't happen in prison" or, "it's a myth that sexual abuse isn't my problem if it happens to a so‑called criminal," how could you say a fact instead?  
	You could say it's a misunderstanding, but I am asking, instead of saying the misunderstanding, how could you say the fact true thing?  
	Could you say that services are available to incarcerated people and how and where to find the Hotline number?  Exactly. 
	Discuss how common it is and then backing that up. Yeah. 
	Sexual violence is common, including in prison. 
	Sexual assault is not the punishment for criminal convictions. Repeating that is similar to what Kris said when interesting JDI and JDI services. 
	Sexual assault does happen to those who are incarcerated. 
	Sexual assault to happen to anyone, anywhere. 
	Lots of different ideas. 
	And I think, hopefully, all these different ideas underscores the point there's not one way to do this and it might look different depending on the thing you are trying to communicate on your website or when you are talking about this topic. But, yeah, again, I appreciate all these comments, even the ones I'm not able to read and address. So thank you. 
	I'll pass it back to Kris. 
	>> KRIS MADY: Thank you, Louie. And I really love this one about thinking about our webpages because actually as we were making this presentation, we looked at a whole bunch of Rape Crisis Center websites and so many had the myths up there. 
	So this isn't an uncommon thing, so it's nothing to be ashamed of if you have it or if you are using it. It's not common knowledge. So that's why we wanted to bring it up today. And I hope that it's just sparking conversation of: Oh, how can we reframe it?  How can we just start stating the facts rather than emphasizing myths?  
	So just wanted to put that out there that it's okay if you have it now and just start to think about how you can change it. Right?  
	So a lot of people have already started to put some ideas of how we can go beyond our words, so I love those idea that is folks have already put in the chat box. 
	And clearly, there are a lot of ways to change, edit, or supplement the words we are using to talk about sexual violence and your Center's services in and what really does reach survivors who are men. 
	There are also other ways, of course, that you can show that your Center's services are available to men in your Community. 
	I think the number one way to do this is really going to where men are in your Community and conducting on‑going, continuous outreach in those spaces. So we just can't expect folks to come to us, especially for folks who haven't historically used our services, including men. 
	So it can really make a big difference when we're conducting targeted outreach to survivors who are men, really by being present in settings in your Community where men are likely to be seeking services or seeking Community. 
	And, of course, men of varying identities might be in different places, but going to places like LGBTQAI Centers, recovery organizations, religious groups, prisons and jails, senior centers, those are all places we found there are a large number of survivors who are men. 
	So this ‑‑ we hope this kind of outreach looks like beyond just putting up a poster in those spaces, but really being present there and making connections with different people who work at these organizations or who are leaders in those spaces so that your outreach goes beyond just dropping off a brochure. Really having a continual presence in those spaces. 
	And a couple people brought this up already, but it also can be helpful to think about what materials your Center has and if you do have posters, newsletters, magazines that you are really making sure that the images that are there really reflect not just femininity, but also masculinity as well. 
	I know a couple folks put in the chat box about having a butterfly and changing that. I really love that idea. 
	And, also, we notice that had a lot of times people have just images of women on their pages and on their materials, so to think about how can you include images of men?  
	Also thinking about the physical space of your Center or places you host groups. Think about, what is the artwork there?  What posters are up?  What bathrooms are available?  All that have will need to reflect that services are available to men. 
	So the more that you can make sure that your Center's outreach materials in particular your brochures, your website, your social media really does take concrete efforts to include images of men, we found that to be really, really helpful. 
	You want to ensure that all people of all ages and identities know that their service is for them. So include men across the lifespan, many of various racial and ethnic backgrounds, men with various body types and abilities, and men who are in a variety of family structures. 
	Again, the more intentional we can be about doing this and reflecting who is in our Community, the more people are able to see themselves as welcome and reflected in the services that you offer. 
	So that can really be a great strategy to do it. You'll see that actually throughout this training, this webinar, we have included a lot of different images of men, so hopefully that can act as sort of a guide on what you can use and what might be useful images to use. 
	And so I think the final thing to think about is, who is doing the outreach?  What is your Staff make‑up?  Of course, many of us on the call today might not have the opportunity to say: Oh, we need to hire more men. Right?  But if you do have men on Staff or you do have men on Staff, it's really great if the Staff can reflect their own Community. 
	I'm seeing a whole bunch of things in the chat box, so I do want to get a chance to pull that up. Yeah. So it looks like people are doing all sorts of things about making sure they are going into men's bathrooms. I love that! 
	Again, just thinking about different spaces where men are going to be. 
	So for this next discussion, we want you to just think about, where are men going in your Community for support, Community, and services?  
	Try to be specific. Add anything in the chat box about maybe where you are going, or maybe if you are not going there yet, maybe a place you want to go. And we encourage you to be really specific. So not just saying: A Church. That's great. But what Church are you going to do, right?  
	Think about what barber shop are you going to?  Who works there?  How are you going to get in contact with them? 
	So in the chat box, maybe put the name of the place you want to try to do outreach to where men are going. 
	And for yourself, start think being, who works there?  Who is a leader there?  How might you get in contact with them?  So really think being the specifics for yourself, but in the chat box adding anything about where you are going or where you want to go to really do some outreach to men. 
	I love this! We have really specific bathrooms. You have Churches that are LGBTQAI‑friendly. Liquor stores. Love that. Homeless shelters. Colleges and bars. I love that! Especially thinking about spring break. Yeah, depending on where you are, maybe you have a big influx of people depending on the time of year. Gyms, gym locker rooms. Absolutely. Golf courses and country clubs. Love that! Again, everybody's Community is going to be really, really different, so I love the different options that folks are putting in here. 
	Someone put the Internet. I love that answer, right! Everyone is on the Internet now and they are sharing that they have a Talk About it Tuesday, a segment that gets posted to the Facebook page and doing specific segments specifically highlights men. I love that! 
	Someone else is here sharing they have a gender‑neutral bathroom in a Center where they provide services. Thinking about these types of things in advance can be really helpful. 
	Local radio stations. Yes! I love this! Keep putting them in the chat because I think if it's working for you, it's really likely that it's working for somebody else. 
	So, again, really thinking about these ‑‑ wow! I can't move away from the chat, Louie. I'm so into what the different folks are putting in. 
	Someone is putting: Racetracks, teen centers. I love these answer. 
	Again, anything you can think of, places you can go, and, again, I really encourage you to move beyond just putting up a poster or just doing a quick highlighting of men, but to really actively be in the space that is men are, really conducting on‑going relationship‑building with people and places where men are going to be. 
	And our final tip today that we want to offer out is that everyone at your Center can have a role in increasing men's access to your services. 
	So the more that your whole Staff could work collaboratively and practice together about communicating your services, the better. 
	Not only will that mean no matter who is on Staff that someone interacts with, they will have that equally good experience, but it also means it will really help spread the word to more and more places. 
	So we want you to think about how all of your Center's activities can work together. That someone working in the Community to teach people how to prevent sexual violence isn't only doing prevention work. Right?  They are also representing the Agency and its mission to people who may have never heard about it before. 
	And ultimately, people doing Community education on sexual violence really have a tremendous opportunity to reach survivors who are men, their loved ones, and other key stakeholders. 
	Everyone at your Agency really does have a role in communicating to the public what sexual violence is and what services you offer. 
	And if you can work together as an entire Staff to clarify how you talk about your services in the Community, you can really make sure that everyone is communicating that your services are for survivors who are men. 
	We really encourage you that if you are speaking to an audience, whether it's in a prevention or training capacity, that you not only say what you need to know about men as bystanders and maybe as men who offend, but also really strongly acknowledging that survivors can be men themselves. 
	Just as Louie mentioned at the top, acknowledging that men are victims and survivors of sexual violence does not diminish the significance of our efforts to engage men and boys in prevention work. Nor does acknowledging that men are victims and survivors of sexual violence discount our understanding that most who commit acts of sexual violence are men. 
	Remember many audience that is you communicate with are going to have survivors that are men. We want to reach them. We want to welcome them and make them not feel "othered." So we want to state that men are also survivors. And I think we can all agree that supporting all survivors of sexual violence is what we want to do and clearly naming men as survivors really helps us with that overall mission. 
	>> LOUIE MARVEN: Great. I see a comment in the chat about trying to reframe "perpetrator" as a "person who causes harm." I love that some of the things we are talking about are creating an extended conversation. Thank you, I appreciate that. 
	One tool from the project is this guy. So we talked earlier about the Working with survivors of Sexual Violence Online Toolkit. Thank you, Sara. 
	This is called: How We Talk About Male Survivors of Sexual Assault and Abuse. This is part of the Online Toolkit and includes the tips we talked about today. 
	We want to remind you that we are available for more support in working with survivors who are men, including through training and technical assistance. We have a lot of resource that are already available online and some more to come. 
	And we are sharing that link in the chat. 
	And, yeah, as we are wrapping up, we have a few minutes to address any questions or comments that you still have. You can share those in the Q&A to just share them with the presenters. You can also continue to use the chat. 
	But is there anything we talked today that you were hoping to get some clarification on or some more information?  Or a question that you want to pose to the larger Community advocates participating in this webinar right now?  
	I'll start by seeing a comment in the chat. 
	Hi, I didn't realize this webinar was in Eastern Time. I'm interested in hearing this and wondering where I can watch the recording.  
	The recording of the webinar will come out on NSVRC's website. Yeah, for those of you who were able to see the whole thing can check that out as well and share it with others who you think might find it helpful. 
	So I see a couple comments about that. 
	While you are typing any possible questions that you are still having, I'll share that we appreciate OVW's support for this work. 
	And these are some of the references that we included today throughout our slides. 
	And we have some contact information we want to share with you. There's an e‑mail address on the screen that says: Resources@nsvrc.org. 
	You can also contact Kris or me directly, we'll share our e‑mail addresses in the chat. 
	We really appreciate you joining today. Thank you for your participation. It was great to so many comments. 
	I'm going go back and read through them again because I know we didn't get to all of them. 
	Again, please do e‑mail us for support on anything we addressed today or anything related to working with men. You can also request to be added to the Online Community space to connect with other advocates who are thinking about this topic. 
	I see a comment about: Can you send out pamphlets?  I'm not ‑‑ why don't you e‑mail, follow‑up with an e‑mail about that. I'm not sure I know. We don't have specifically a pamphlet to send out, but maybe we can help identify some good resources or support you in making a change to something you are thinking about. 
	I see a lot of comments saying "thank you." 
	Well, thank you, all. Thank you all for joining! 
	Kris, do you have any final comments as we wrap up today?  
	>> KRIS MADY: Just a general thank you to everybody for joining and to just remind you all that Louie and I are here as a resource. We love talking about this. You know, this is ‑‑ I know for me it's a very important topic to me and I think the more questions we get, we love them, so don't hesitate to e‑mail us, to check out this webinar, to check out the other resources we have. Always happy to answer any questions and to talk more about this. 
	>> LOUIE MARVEN: Great. Thanks to our Interpreter Team, our Captioner, and thanks to you, Kris, and everyone from NSVRC who supported the webinar today. 
	And we'll see you out there! Thanks for coming! 
	
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